Is it better to take the array and be Joe Average, or to roll for the odds of getting on average better scores?

  • I am new to D&D. I was looking at character creation for D&D 5th edition. There were a few ways one could generate ability scores. I assumed the optional method of taking the numbers 15,14,13,12,10,8 would be at least as good as the default chance method (roll 4d6, drop lowest die), and more likely, just a bit better than chance.

    However, with the above method, the summed ability scores is 72, which is just a bit shy of the summed average one would obtain by rolling dice: the average ability score generated by dice should be 12.2446, which means the sum of the average ability scores is 73.4676.

    What the 15,14,13,12,10,8 method accomplishes is to give some moderately high scores, but no exceptional ones, without giving any terrible scores (dice rolling typically gives at least one score of seven or less). To my mind that suggests that the rationale is that many players may find that "joe just-below-average" across the board is better than Achilles, who is amazing in some ways, but has that crazy heel weakness. He is also maybe better than "Joe Exactly-average" who has no high scores and no low ones?

    Are those rationales good, i.e. is it actually better to have Joe Just-below-average-with-some-bright-spots than Joe Completely-average or Achilles?


    Correction: The odds of rolling all ability scores at 8 or above are 70%, so I misspoke when I said usually one will roll one score below an 8. In fact, usually one does not, but not in a strong sense. It is no more unlikely to get a score below 8 than two coin flips coming up tails. It happens.

    I provide a quick chart at the end, which makes the statistics easy to generate. As I generated the numbers quickly, I confess the possibility of error. For the 1296 possible rolls of four dice here are the number of ways you can obtain each value as the sum of the best three.

    Sum of best three | Number of possible rolls that give that sum of best 3
    --------------------------------------------
      3                     1
      4                     4
      5                    10
      6                    21
      7                    38
      8                    62
      9                    91
      10                  122
      11                  148
      12                  167
      13                  172
      14                  160
      15                  131
      16                   94
      17                   54
      18                   21
    

    Whippersnapper! The array doesn't yield Joe **Average**, it yields Joe **Hero**! 4d6-drop-lowest is **already** a huge advantage over **real** random stat generation - 3d6 **in order**. Kids these days! ;)

  • briddums

    briddums Correct answer

    6 years ago

    It is better to take the array.

    There are several reasons for having all players start with the same points then choose their stats:

    1. Consistency - You'll never have to worry about a player who rolls poorly being stuck with bad scores across the board.

    2. Fairness - You won't end up with any players rolling really well and having multiple high scores. Characters with those ability scores can often overshadow others.

    3. No Cheating - You won't have to worry about players fudging their dice rolls.

    4. No Upset Feelings - You won't have to deal with any player jealousy's over another player having better ability scores.

    5. Players won't "suicide" to get a character with better stats.

    @Tijnkwan I fondly remember a campaign in which, during the first game, I had a player jumping *several* times down a cliff (or charge an orc, or burn himself to ashes) and create new characters until he was satisfied with the roll he got. It was a great laugh. Thing is, for me to allow him to re-join the game and kill himself again he had to create the FULL character, including feats and calculating all stats (he played about 15 minutes of a 5 hours game). It became a great gag. (And later the dead returned as undead villains)

    The only problem I have with this answer is that it appears to be from the PoV of the DM, while the question was asked from the PoV of the player generating a character. (All 4 points are certainly considerations that may arise at some tables ... but won't at others). As a "general answer" to a table full of new players, pretty solid advice.

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