What is the downside to me purchasing a road bike instead of a hybrid?
I'm about to move to a place closer to my work where I'll be able to ride to and from the office (9km ride each way).
I'm not super fit but I occasionally ride to work from where I'm living now which is a 14km commute on an old mountain bike with some thinner tyres fitted. I need a change of clothes for those rides.
I figured with the move, it's a good opportunity to get into riding. I plan on riding every day and me and my gf may even sell one of our cars eventually.
Which is why I'm thinking I need a real bike. I'm a little torn between getting a hybrid commuting bike or a road bike.
My brain tells me a hybrid is much more practical but I tried a road bike the other day (only in a car park), and it just seems SO much lighter and smoother. In terms of the handle bars, it was awkward but I think I could get used to it.
So yeah, if I pick a road bike where I can stick a rack on, should I just go ahead and buy a road bike instead of a hybrid? Is there anything a hybrid will offer me that a road bike will not? How do road bikes handle when they have racks?
A compromise is a light touring bike. Built like a road bike but with slightly wider tires and intended to handle racks & fenders.
See also What bike+equipment for a long daily urban commute? which is a question about what bike to get for a commute that is twice that distance (18 km each way).
Another good compromise is a cyclocross bike. A bit more robust, wider tires, quick handling (unlike a touring bike), more tire clearance (for better wet/winter tires and probably a rack), probably a slightly higher handlebar position and slightly slower gears. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclo-cross_bicycle
Whatever bike you buy get some almost-smooth kevlar-belted tyres on it - 28 to 35mm wide depending on surfaces is good for commuting.
It's worth avoiding the hybrids with (front) suspension - the actual suspension is pretty minimal if you ride over a kerb for example but it adds quite a bit of weight and still saps some of your effort if you're standing on the pedals up a hill. A hybrid that fits you well with some components changed to suit you better will let you ride gently all day or a couple of hours at 15mph with only minimal discomfort once you're used to it.
Absolutely only get a hybrid for this sort of riding. Road bikes are literally designed to be less comfortable. I love seeing city commuters have to sit up and not use their handlebars on their road bikes because their backs hurt too much from a 3 mile commute lol.
*Road bikes are literally designed to be less comfortable.* That is completely untrue. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. Try taking that hybrid with one-hand-position-and-they're-all-uncomfortable on a 100-mile ride. Try sitting on and pedaling on your hybrid's "nice soft cushioned saddle" for five or six hours. If you haven't done those things, saying something like *Road bikes are literally designed to be less comfortable* demonstrates that you literally don't know what you're talking about.
The real answer is that for a 9km ride, virtually any bike will do the trick. It's hard to be uncomfortable on a bike (that fits you) for that short of a ride.
However, I'm fully in the road bike camp on this question. Hybrids are, in my opinion, a compromise with no real benefits. Most people aren't going to ride them off-road (and most road bikes can deal with short periods of offroad travel without problems). Cushioned saddles look great to novices, but divert weight away from your sit bones and are all but guaranteed to be uncomfortable should you decide to ride longer distances (for this reason, I can't recommend leather saddles highly enough, particularly Brooks'). The knobby tires that come standard on most hybrids have poor road handling characteristics, and actually result in less traction on the road in wet conditions (bicycles cannot hydroplane).
On the contrary, a properly setup road commuter will offer you more hand positions via the drop handlebars (on the flats, the hoods, and drops) compared to just one. This will be invaluable for longer rides where your hands fatigue from maintaining one position. They can come with wider non-racing tires (I commute on 28C Panaracer Ribmo tires, and haven't had a flat in over 10,000km). And appropriate commuting frames come with rack and pannier bosses, and many will have racks preinstalled.
So while a hybrid bike will work, an appropriately-equipped road bike would be better in that it will be able to adapt to your needs should find yourself wanting to ride longer distances or join faster group rides.
Problems with a road bike may be that it doesn't take fenders, a rack, disk brakes, wider tires (e.g. I commute on 700x32).
Also I use some kind of nice regular synthetic saddle (not padded cycling shorts and not a leather saddle) for my commute, without problems. If there were something that I "can't recommend highly enough", it would be more likely the right tires (and brakes and lights and everything), than saddle.
For road riding, I agree that hybrid has limited-to-no advantages. For the riding I do, which does involve some minimally-to-un-improved trails, I certainly _could_ negotiate them in my old Schwinn road bike, but the hybrid may have advantages. (I haven't had it long enough to have a firm opinion.) Mine does have a "switchable" front suspension, so I'll be in a position to get a real comparison. Yes, I know it isn't going to be as fast, but maximally fast wasn't one of my critera... and anything is a step up from that old Schwinn.
To flip this answer over a bit, the more upright position of a hybrid can improve visibility in traffic, and unless you're already an experienced road-biker, stop-start riding with cars close by isn't the time to get used to transferring between handlebar positions - when I tried my commute by road bike I ended up on the hoods almost all the time for both these reasons - and the improved aerodynamics are more important on an open road.
@ChrisW the solution to all those problems is a low-end CX bike. Mine came 2 months ago for 400EUR with disc brakes, fender and rack mounts, 35x700c tires, 34-spoked wheels, drop bars and upright geometry. Most awesome city bike ever! Handles stairs, short drops, trails, keeps up with cars. The hoods are approximately at the level of the saddle => traffic can see me well.
The two main advantages of a hybrid are 1) that they are more comfortable, and 2) that the larger tires will leave you less prone to getting flat tires. The "comfort" thing depends on a number of factors--remember, no one logs more time on their bikes than dedicated road cyclists, and so road bikes are made for comfort--just with a steeper learning curve. If you have back problems, you may find the more upright position of the hybrid to be beneficial. If you are riding in a location with a freeze-thaw cycle, the roads may be unpleasantly bumpy on the skinny tires of a road bike.
One other option is to consider a cyclocross bike. Cyclocross bikes are essentially hybrids, except they stay much close to true road bikes. You will have drop bars, and road components, but the bikes will also be sturdier, and accept wider tires.
Touring bikes also accept larger tires and are designed with a more relaxed geometry. Both are a good choice for commuting because they'll have attachment points for fenders and racks.
Disagree 100%. Tires are completely independent of the style of bike you choose to ride. And road bikes can be more comfortable than hybrids due to greater numbers of potential hand positions, and saddles that are built to work with your anatomy rather than uninformed buyers' perception of their own anatomy. If you're uncomfortable on your road bike, you're doing it wrong.
Stephen is right on. Most who complain about "discomfort" with a roadster simply have not purchased a properly-sized bike, have not set it up properly, or are using poor technique. I see this everyday; people riding around with their hands seemingly welded into the "drops", using a poor choice of gearing, saddle too low or too high... The whole range of problems. Go to a good shop, get a bike that fits, and learn some basic techniques. You'll be happier.
A road bike can be more comfortable for many people, but that doesn't mean that a road bike is more comfortable for every person. As I mentioned, road bikes are designed to be comfortable for the people who ride the most. Hybrid bikes are designed to be comfortable to people who don't ride as much. There isn't a total ordering on comfort, but the people who choose hybrids usually do it for that reason. Also, most road bikes will not accept a tire wider than 28mm. Some even less than that. Tires are absolutely not independent of the style of bike. And for the record, I only own road bikes
Tires are independent of the choice of road bike vs. hybrid, but not necessarily for a particular road *frame* (e.g., I just put massive 26x2.0 tires on the Long Haul Trucker I'm building up, but my racing bike will only fit 25C max). A hybrid bike *might* be more comfortable for shorter rides (how much discomfort can one actually develop on a 10km ride on a properly fit road bike with a halfway decent saddle, though?), but they also act as a limiter.
On the original question
As requested by the OP original question, the downsides of a road bike include:
Road bikes typically have tire widths that are not oriented towards getting to work with extra items on your bike, comfortably and with minimal distraction. Depending on what the route is like, narrow tires are bad for commuting because:
Narrow tires require more of your attention on choosing a good "line" (the specific desired path in the next several meters based on conditions of the route and surrounding, e.g. "ride a few cm to the left of the puddle ahead".). The more time and energy and visual processing used for choosing your line, means you can't look around (for traffic safety) as much. This distraction is because (among other things) narrower tires:
are more prone to punctures from hitting items or bumps.
have greater tendency to get caught or slip in edges, grooves, joints, or grating parallel to direction of travel, and
transmit more road bumps and vibration to the rider.
Narrow tires are not as comfortable for 10km. Fatter tires act as shock and vibration absorbers for yourself and your cargo (laptop?), allowing you to be less picky about choosing a smooth line.
It also means you are less confident or safe when "forced" into a line or terrain that is not ideal, such as when heavy traffic does not allow you to swerve around a bad patch of road. And more, looser weight (clothing, cargo) means you aren't as nimble as a racer, which makes it even more difficult to avoid bad terrain as a commuter.
For performance-oriented road bikes, there are fewer attachment holes for racks, fenders/mudguards, etc. Also there is less clearance for mudguards and/or more comfortable tire sizes.
Hunched / horizontal torso posture on road bikes makes it more difficult to look around or behind as easily as more upright riding postures. This affects safety in high traffic areas.
Due to the hunched-down posture on road bikes, shoulder bag / "messenger bags" swing down to your front, which then become an unstable pendulum that swings around as you ride. Even when a bag is around your back, there is a constant distraction of feeling like it is about to swing or of needing to elbow it back (which may mean removing a hand from the handlebars).
It's certainly possible to commute with a road bike. And you can work around or master the above issues with extra time in practice, additional hardware, new techniques. And note that almost any bike is going to get you 10km pretty easily.
For these reasons above, I suggest following the other responders' suggestions on avoiding performance- or race- oriented road bikes.
- "Urban" / "City" / "Commuter", or even "Dutch" bikes. These categories of bikes have broadened and improved in recent years due to the growth of the number of people such as yourself looking to commute but not race. They tend to be more upright than road bikes, and either have or can accommodate fenders and racks. E.g.
"Fitness" or "Flat handlebar" road/hybrid bike. E.g.
"Mountain" bike (without suspension), fitted with "slick" or "street" or "commuter" tires. A very common commuter solution.
It should be noted that that sort of bicycle-unfriendly grate has been at least "strongly discouraged" in the US for decades.
@DanielRHicks, it is an example. You have plenty of similar obstacles, like tram or train tracks.
@DanielRHicks It should also be noted that cycling that close to the kerb is also strongly discouraged, due to the risk of pedal strikes on the kerb itself, punctures from debris that tends to filter to the gutter, and the increased risk of motorists thinking there's room to pass when really there isn't.
The main downside to the road bike is mounting options for fenders, rack, and panniers, etc. Basically, most road bikes available simply don't have the braze-on's for fenders, racks, etc. So, you'll have to shop around for a road bike with braze-on options.
That being said...I commuted for years on a road bike with no braze-ons...
- There are fenders that clip onto the stays in the rear and the fork in front that are reasonably secure. (If you frequently ride in wet conditions, you'll want fenders.)
- There are seat-post mounted racks which are capable of holding panniers. The downside is that the load capacity is considerably less than when you have braze-ons to support the load. (My seat-post mounted rack on my old road bike can accomodate ~20lbs; whereas I can put ~40+lbs in the panniers on my hybrid with braze-ons)
- The other option for hauling stuff is to use a backpack or messenger bag. This is not a deal breaker for some people and some commutes.
In terms of hybrids... There are many options for hybrid bikes these days. As far as I know, all of them have a general set of braze-ons that allow for fenders, racks, panniers. All of the major manufacturers have multiple "hybrid" options. Some of these hybrids are pretty sweet bikes with mainly road bike features. They're often marketed as "fitness" hybrids. An example that a friend just bought, is the "District 9" by Trek; he did swap out the upright bars for drop bars though. Point is, several manufacturers (Scott, Cannondale, Specialized, etc.) make this type of hybrid, so this could be a good option.
Your third option could be a touring bike.
All in all, figure out your major use and how much stuff you're going to be hauling around. Then start shopping around and try out a few bikes.
To complete my answer...
I recently helped a friend shop for a new bike for his commute. He is mostly a road cyclist, but finally selected a "fitness" or "road inspired" hybrid for commuting purposes and lunch time workouts. The bike is essentially a road bike, but with braze-ons for fenders and rack/panniers. It's also somewhat heavier than a regular road bike, came stocked with 700x28c tires, nice rims, had flat bars, racing type seat and otherwise had quality components. He made a deal with the bike shop to swap out to drop bars and shifters/brake levers for the drop bars. This is a nice bike which is a lot of fun to ride; and seriously I could easily spend 4 - 6 hours on this bike, but I wouldn't want to do a very hilly century on it.
Get a road bike if you really want one and aren't terribly concerned about hauling loads. Otherwise, newer "fitness/road inspired" hybrids may be a good option for your purposes.
If you have panniers on, full of paperwork, a laptop, and possibly a suit, then a road bike may well feel uncomfortable. A hybrid will cope better with the extra weight, smoothing the ride (bigger tyres, possibly suspension, more seat padding etc)
And fully loaded, you may find a road bike won't corner properly
- the frame may twist under the extra load
- the weight distribution may not be ideal for cornering (too little weight on the front wheel)
I love riding to work on a full on road bike, but plan it so I leave my laptop, spare clothes etc in the office the day before so I don't have to try and lug everything in.
so with your road bike, do you have panniers at all? I don't plan on putting too much in there - possibly just shoes and a change of clothes.
No - my road bike doesn't even have fixings for mudguards, let alone panniers. I had a previous one which did, and my main problem was loading too far to the rear, which let my front wheel slide out once on a fast corner. Wouldn't want to do that again.
As seen from earlier answers, there is a great deal of variability in the design of both road and hybrid bikes, such that the definitions overlap quite a lot.
Perhaps the most common difference is that "road" bikes typically have drop handlebars and "hybrid" bikes typically have flat bars.
So maybe the question boils down to which bar style is better for commuting.
A flat bar (with a wider grip) has the following advantages relevant to commuting:-
- More accurate control at low speeds
- Better visibility (by me and of me) due to upright position
- Easier one-handed control for signalling
On the downside the wider bar is occasionally awkward to fit through gaps in queueing traffic.
Some advantages of a drop bar:-
- Better aerodynamics due to narrower hand placement and especially when in the drops.
- Multiple hand positions for improved comfort.
These are less important on a relatively short and slow urban commute.
I have both a drop-bar bike and a flat-bar bike. Although the drop-bar bike is faster and more comfortable than the flat bar hybrid and overall does more distance in a year, I prefer the hybrid for commuting across town. A large part of the reason I choose the hybrid for commuting is the bar style.
A hybrid is going to have a larger gear inch range than a road bike, typically - translation: You'll have a few more lower gears for those hills.
It's going to have a more relaxed frame angle - translation: It'll feel like a softer ride but with less nimbleness in the reaction of the steering which you may or may not like.
With the more relaxed geometry, that allowes room for racks, bigger fenders(mud guards) and larger tires if you feel the skinny tires are not your thing. It stretches things out when you have a relaxed geometry. The frame will have more braze-ons too for those expected add-ons.
Hybrids also typically come spec'd with a straight handle bar like a MTB but that can be easily changed out for a traditional drop bar which gives you loads more positions to hang onto plus you can get dual brake levers - hooded brakes for the drops with two-finger brakes in serial on the uppers. Mind you with a road bike you can change the drops to an upright straight bar too. Usually people change to a straight bar because they feel they won't be able to grab the brake levers fast enough if they have drops. However after you get the hang of things you start to ride with your hands on the hoods and have a couple of fingers resting on the levers ready to feather the brakes when you need them.
With a road bike you have a very small point of contact with the road (skinny tires high preasure) which is why it feels (and is) more responsive. You could get road bike tires for a hybrid and get the same feel.
Lastly, hybrids are designed more for rec riders so they make them a little bit more beefy than a road bike, which are trying hard to be as light as possible. Chances are at a given price point you'll see the road bike win the weight battle. Mind you it might only be by a pound so once you factor in the gear you'll be carrying with you you won't really care about that too much.
I pondered over this question for quite some time before my decision fell firmly on the hybrid.this was mainly due to my commute taking me through the peak district over roads which are pitted, poorly maintained and riddled with unavoidable potholes which a hybrid can effortlessly cope with but would prove expensively lethal to a road bike's thin tyres and wheels. I could opt for a more road bike friendly route put it would add 4 miles to my journey which defeats the object of additional speed. It all depends on your personal needs.
A hybrid bike has some benefits over road bikes including:
- A room for a fixed front basket especially larger ones.
- Increased room for accessories such as bells, horns, switches, buttons, reflectors, tablet holders, phone holders, bike computers, spare lights, etc.
- Better view when using handlebar mirrors since the handlebar is often wider, allowing the mirror to be placed further away.
- More options for mirrors and bells.
- More options for brake levers and shifters.
- Cheaper combo shifters.
- Lower cost of the bicycle.
- Higher braking power as you get more leverage on a hybrid bike's brake lever than a road bike's brake lever on the hoods.
- Improved visibility and the ability to see further ahead as you're taller.
- The ability to produce higher power when the speed limits are lower which may be appreciated by fitter cyclists. This would increase the opportunities for doing interval training.
Occasional commuter here, I have an old Norco Olympia hybrid. It’s been everywhere, including under a SUV.
Cheap repairs and unreal reliability is why I chose this steel frame beast. I imagine swapping it out for something nicer would be more comfortable for my commute, but one thing to take into consideration is the amount of theft in your area. No thief in his right mind would steal my bike. I know I have a ride home when I get out of work.
It's not quite clear to me that this answers the question. Essentially, you're saying that it's a good idea to prioritize low maintenance costs and a bike that's unappealing to thieves. Both of those are good suggestions, but it sounds to me like they'd apply equally to a beat-up old road bike or a beat-up old hybrid (or a beat-up old any other kind of bike). Or maybe that's the point: it doesn't matter if it's a road bike or a hybrid or something else, as long as it doesn't break the bank or get stolen.